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. the science of win is just as biological as it is mental. take dog hammers, for one example. for women handlers who befriend their competition before a show. testosterone levels actually decrease. for men it continues to rise, fueling their competitive drive. ladies, don't fret. the science also shows that we are actually better at risk taking. here to help us and you identify your own competitive style and tip the odds in your favor is best selling author, the author of top dog. winning and losing. in the book you write from champion tennis players to nba students to army recruits to jeopardy contestants, even children just racing across the playground. women and men compete differently. how so? >> well, women are actually very good at judging the odds of whether they're going to win or lose. women are very sensitive to those odds. on wall street, female financial analysts, they're 7.3% more accurate than male financial analysts. a brand new study just this week showed that women-run hedge funds outperformed male-run hedge funds. all that ability to see the risk and be sense i have th
's national laboratories. it was titled, the sequester is going to devastate u.s. science research for decades. they said this drop in funding will force to us cancel all new programs and research initiatives, probably for at least two years. is that going to put a damper on our future prospects? >> if the sequester holds in its current form for the ten years that it is supposed to, then yes, the answer is there will definitely be horrible consequences. i think before we go to the bad news, you need to give a little context. the good news is that america has been investing in research and development. it has been investing in science and technology at a very high rate. in 2009, thanks partly to the stimulus, the u.s. investment matched the previous high at the space race at 2.9 of gdp. that amount of money being poured into public and private research. so we've come down a little because of the budget cuts already put in place and we've come down much more because of the sequester. that speaks exactly to what i was argue ewing in my special report. the federal government tends to either not re
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believe republicans are anti-immigrant. >> our message was weak. >> anti-woman. anti-science. >> we weren't inclusive. >> anti-gay. anti-worker. >> there's a long list of them. >> the list goes on and on and on. >> buck up or stay in the truck. buck up and run. >> i'd say, if i did run for office and win, i'd serve out my term. >> if standing for liberty and standing for the constitution makes you a wackobird, chen count me a proud wackobird. >> cpac had to cut back on its speakers this year by 300 pounds. >> barack obama, you lied. >> i think it's about dignity and respect. >> so this go-round, he's got the rifle, i've got the rack. >>> we begin with the republican party facing a serious case of the mondays. after a weekend carouse iing at cpac, no doubt downing a few in honor of st. patrick, today came the reckoning with the revelation of their own autopsy on what went badly wrong in 2012. this morning, it fell to rnc chair, reince priebus to give his party an uncompromising look in the rearview mirror. >> our message was weak. our ground game was insufficient. we weren't inclusive. we
what science says is or isn't in their interest. we allow you to smoke. we just don't let you smoke where other people have to breathe the smoke that you -- that you're exhaling or comes from your cigarette. the same thing with obesity, which incidentally is a public interest because we're going to spend $5 billion on treating people of obesity in our hospitals in new york city alone this year. but regardless -- >> where is the line? where is it too far for government to go? >> i do not think we should ban most things. i do think there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom, and that is, for example, if you're drinking, we shouldn't let you drive, because you'll kill somebody else. if you are carrying a gun, we shouldn't let you on an airplane. there's a lot of things that we do -- if there's asbestos in the classroom we should remove the kids from the classroom until you clean the air, but in terms of smoking, if you want to smoke, i protect your right to dot that. if you want to own a gun, i certainly think it's constitutionally protected. you certainly have a right
-intellectual, ain't science and uncurious. despite successes of right wing broadcasters, like glenn beck and hannity, and despite the success of populist-ish governors like scott walker and bobby jindal and despite the effectiveness of the tea party in corralling conservatism in a grassroots cause, the movement has been successfully demonized by liberals as plutocratic, corporatist, anti-other and anti-poor. i believe both are unfair characterizations. if politics is perception, then conservatism is failing on both fronts. the good news is the job of revitalizing both the movement's hitch history of intellectualism and every man tradition has two very capable applicants. the bad news is, they will need to work together. rand paul and marco rubio are often pitted against one another competes for influence and authority, at times they seem to encourage this and may, in fact, end up competing in 2016. but their differences now and until then should be exploited in productive ways for the party that addressed those two deficiencies. paul's ayn randian highly intellectualized conservatism is informed by
as a political science professioner writer, on this right, co-hosted the show with me once or twice. he was somebody i called as a quote for pieces. i got to know him really well. he was so encouraging to me. he looked at me and said your future is in tv. you've got to make it work in tv. it was good to hear. i didn't know what it meant. it's not a direct straight line from here to here. the tv thing didn't start until recently. his encouragement stuck with me. unfortunately he passed away a few years ago. he died in the classroom doing what he loved. david is his name. i just had three years in new jersey. it was the funnest time in my life. i'm really excited about this new show. might be great. i hope it's great. might be the biggest disaster sin but we'll find out. there will be a lot of people i hope get to watch but i just wish david could have been one of them. i had a blast the last nine months. >> we're going to miss you. >> for the final time, martin bashir, take it away. >> i'm sorry. who are you? good afternoon, it's wednesday, march 20th. on this first day of spring, the pr
, about black members, members of the tea party. with us now the professor of political science at the university of washington and author of the upcoming book "change they can't believe in, the tea party and reactionary politics in america." thanks so much, christopher, for joining us. it seems to me that when a lot of us who work on this show and have watched this program we have made a real effort to show the face of the tea party. all the placards up there, the hitler mustaches, the black face, if you will, superimposed on the face of barack obama. these obvious racial things that keep popping up in the visuals. what does your study tell you about the nature of the racial peace here of the tea party? >> well, thanks for having me, chris. my study suggests that there is a strain of racism in the tea party going all of the way back to when it began in 2010. there's definitely a racist strain but it goes beyond racism, homophobia as well, chris. >> let's talk about how they fit together. >> sure. >> is it a resumption of the old south, the dreamy nostalgia you get in the old mo
, science, technology, the economy, but going with the president of israel and the prime minister to see a high-tech demonstration. one of which was a robot actually serving matzoh. so there were all sorts of demonstrations on medical advances. israel really has exploded with technology and science here and what the president was trying to say to the young people is, this is a model for the region. now make your democracy work by not being an occupying forceful. >> i thought that was one of the most effective parts of the president's speech. to say, take essentially, take all this negative energy and turn this into something positive. that israel is an economic hub. the palestinians are among the most educated populations in the worldful there is great potential here if these two opposing sides would actually work together. that's why he has been stressing economic development as a possibility. >> now a $40 billion a year mutual trade relationship that dennis ross helped nurture along. thank you, dennis, and i should say nbc middle east adviser in chicago, jeffrey goldberg here. we'll be
-ingrants. anti-women. anti-science, anti-gay, anti-worker and the list goes on and on and on. >> for the last three weeks, conservatives have been winning. >> the gop of old has grown stale and moss-covered. i don't think we need to name many names. >> i want to bring in washington bureau chief of the chicago sun-times, lynn sweet, as well as as politics reporter jackie kucinich. we'll start with you, one of the first recommendations in this report, almost 100 pages, it says, quote, the perception that the gop does not care about people is doing great harm to the party and its candidates on the federal level, especially in presidential years. it is a major deficiency that must be addressed. end quote. so, lynn, after reading this and hearing this do you think this new rnc plan is going to help? >> well, some of the structural changes that the chairman is proposing may help, especially having a shorter primarien is and cutting almost some 20 debates you in the 1220 psych until half. to 10, maybe 12. that will help structurally. they want to put a lot of money in digital technology going into i
number of students who are in graduate degrees from american colleges in science, tech, and math would be granted permanent legal status. that's great news. tech lobbyists had to pull a full-court press on d.c. arguing google and microsoft having a hard time finding qualified workers because of visa restrictions. >>> the "los angeles times," jeff basa has recovered some of the f-1 engines to bring "apollo" to the moon. he recovered them after three weeks at sea working miles below the atlantic ocean. >> obviously, that is great news. >> yeah. >> like an explorer. >> the baton rouge advocate has nothing about chasing down rocket engines from 1969. the library of congress sound of satellite news center by simon and garfunkel and the twist by chubby checker. you are my sunshine by jimmy davis. it was chosen on local and artistic importance. >> workers must report their weight and body fat or face 600 dollars in terms of health insurance premiums. >> let's go to happier news. did you see this, mike? >> i'm not sure that's fair. >> how about that? so "the tonight show" is coming to new york
office said this. >> way too many people believe republicans are anti-immigrant, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-gay, anti-worker, and the list goes on and on and on. >> if that from jeb bush and the background birther thing and the proud wacko bird thing, what would you do? what would you do almost before sunrise on the following monday morning to prevent those clips from getting any other air-time than they absolutely had to get? what would you do to step on that news? what happened early this morning to knock those clips right out of the headlines? if you think most hybrids are a bit under sized then this will be a nice surprise. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max come. c-max go. c-max give a ride to everyone it knows. c max has more passenger volume than competitor prius v and we haven't even mentioned... c-max also gets better mpg. say hi to the super fuel efficient ford c-max hybrid. for the things you can't wash, freshen them with febreze. febreze eliminates odors and leaves a light, fresh scent. febreze, breathe happy. watch this -- alakazam! ♪ [ male announcer ] stapl
of political science and with the republican party finding itself in sort of a coincidental temporal box yesterday, president obama nominating the first hispanic in tom perez and the autopsy about what went wrong in the last election. obviously, they don't like top perez as nominee. mostly for his politics. >> the basic problem the republican party has had when it's come to nonwhite voters, this is sort of at the root of it. you can go back, if you look at the message that was in this autopsy report, all about inclusion, respect, outreach, you can find repeated by past chairman, presidential nominees, major congressional leaders going back to the 1960s and '70s. the critical moment and modern evolution in terms of its relationships with voters, it was 1964. now they're getting into territory where the same thing is almost happening with latinos. they do slightly better, but are sort of permanently about 25%. so the most glaring problem here, we have rhetoric about immigration when it's somebody like perez. there's some rhetorical problem, but a deeper problem and that is that the republi
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treatments. it's pushing new frontiers of science and exploration. that's the kind of relationship that israel should have and could have with every country in the world. already we see how that innovation could reshape this region. there's a program here in jerusalem that brings together young israelis and palestinians to learn vital skills in technology and business. an israeli and palestinian have started a venture capital fund to finance start-ups. over 100 high-tech companies have found home on the west bank, which speaks to the talent and entrepreneurial spirit of the palestinian people. one of the great ironies of what's happening in the broader region is that so much of what people are yearning for, education, entrepreneurship, the ability to start a business without paying a bribe, the ability to connect to the global economy, those are things that can be found here in israel. this should be a hub for thri thriving regional trade and an engine for opportunity. israel's already a center for innovation that helps power the global economy. and i believe that all of that poten
. this is a party that has become divorced from any sort of science or research or data and if they are going to win back the trust of the american people, if they are going to come up with anything that offer as real solution to the country's problems, they have to show that what they want to do squares with creating positive results in some sort of a meaningful way. >> but that's the point that i'm making. i'm not even saying, become like those of us that disagree with you. >> right. >> but show me your plan that comes to a result. >> right. >> that will help eradicate poverty, or help african-americans or latinos or women. >> there's no real evidence. >> but give me your way and tell me why it would lodgely do that. i mean, you look at roll call, the stewart rothenberg. he wrote an article about the gop, joan, and he told me this. i recently asked a smart veteran republican pollster what his party could do to turn his party around in the near future and his response was refreshingly honest. nothing. the republican brand will improve, he continued, only when the president screws up. hope the presi
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breast cancer. i got to tell you, this is a thinly veiled scare tactic based on junk science that was largely debunked by the national cancer institute in 2003. they concluded having an abortion or miscarriage does not increase a woman's subsequent risk of developing breast cancer. a very different bill on tuesday by republican legislators in texas includes the same loose interpretation of the truth. and on paper it's about protecting the health and safety of patients of an abortion facility. but in practice it would shut down the 37 licensed abortion clinics. the law would require them to close or undergo expensive and extensive facility upgrades to meet the same standards as a surgery center. but it includes clinics in texas that don't perform any surgical procedures at all. it looks like they are choosing to give women's history month a new meaning with these historic restrictions on women's rights. but the aggressive taking away of our rights is a long game in play here. and the goal is nothing less than the complete erosion of productive choice. at the table, nancy north
and netanyahu make peace. and from "the christian science monitor," a show of warmth. joining me is p.j. crowley. good to see you. >> hello, chris. good morning. >> evidence of this warming relationship came from the prime minister himself. let me play for you what he said. >> i think that people should get to know president obama the way i've gotten to know him. >> do you sense just from what you've seen over the last 24 hours or so, p.j., that this relationship is warming? if that's true, how important is it? >> well, it is important. you know, there are major strategic issues that -- and a really shared vision between the united states and israel on the big things. iran, the middle east peace process, and i'm sure the president and prime minister talked about syria as well. clearly, they've had strains in their relationship, but these are both skilled politicians. yesterday was about, you know, putting a floor on their relationship because they're going to be governing together, you know, for a number of years. you know, the pictures were reassuring, the words were reassuring, and yesterday w
unfulfilled. we have forensic science. i'm happy to say that finally it appears after a landmark report by the national academy of sciences the only forensic assay, dna testing. they criticize severely, fingerprints, bite marks, tool marks on bullet, all kind of other forensic assays that haven't been adequately validated and some may not be validatable. finally now we have a national commission with national institute of standards and technology and the department of justice and we're going to have 30 people appointed to that starting soon. so some progress has been made but the real significance of dna, it's been a learning moment for the criminal justice system and we realize how riddled with error this system is in the first place. >> it feels like, if kirk didn't do it and was convicted on it, the problem isn't just missing dna test. it was all of these other pieces. i also heard you say the intractable problem of race. we can't talk about death penalty without talking about race. i want to make clear how important that particular al kem i is. it's not that african-american america
republicans are anti-immigrant, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-gay, anti-worker, and the list goes on and on and on. >> meanwhile, in a saturday keynote, texas senator ted cruz pointed to sequester cuts and rand paul's filibuster to argue the conservatives are somehow winning now. and he took a swipe at senator john mccain. >> we did have a certain eminence grize of the republican party describe rand paul and me as wacko birds. >> we wondered whether senator rand paul could corral straw poll supporter. he clearly did. the libertarian senator scored with conservatives looking toward the 2016 race. winning the straw poll with 25% of the vote. very close second there. marco rubio at 23%. no other candidate, though, in double digits. for cycle after cycle, the republican party has been rewarding the next guy in line with their presidential nomination. but for the first time in a generation, the party has no front-runner. could mean a crowded field. this weekend the potential candidates were already jockeying for position. wisconsin governor scott walker, among the weekend's more popula
-woman, anti-science, anti-gay, anti-worker, and the list goes on and on and on. >> if that from jeb bush and the background birther thing and the proud wacko bird thing, what would you do? what would you do almost before sunrise on the following monday morning to prevent those clips from getting any other air-time than they absolutely had to get? what would you do to step on that news? what happened early this morning to knock those clips right out of the headlines. was a record collection. no. there was that fuzzy stuff on the gouda. [ both ] ugh! when it came to our plants... we were so confused. how much is too much water? too little? until we got miracle-gro moisture control. it does what basic soils don't by absorbing more water, so it's there when plants need it. yeah, they're bigger and more beautiful. guaranteed. in pots. in the ground. in a ukulele. are you kidding me? that was my idea. with the right soil... everyone grows with miracle-gro. [ male announcer ] from the way the bristles move to the way they clean, once you try an oral-b deep sweep power brush, you'll never go bac
, in science and research, in education. things that are important to power the economy. our focus has been on jobs first. let's get the economy in full gear. not put the brakes on it. which is what the republicans do. they've gotten austerity budget that according to the nonpartisan congressional budget office, will result in 750,000 fewer jobs bn i end of the year. so we say let's tackle the deficit in a smart way, get people back to work and reduce it over a steady period over a period of time and our comes to balance at the same time that the republicans' budget from last year comes into balance. >> on the issue of revenue, i believe your budget has about $200 billion more in revenue than senator murray's budget in the senate. why did you put that in there considering that republicans are so adverse to any new revenue? >> the budget we have in our democratic proposal. if you take it even together with the revenue from the fiscal cliff agreement, is still less total revenue, luke, than was embedded in the bipartisan simpson-bowles agreement. so we have less revenue proposed by that bipar
by american professors of rocket science who say the iron dome was nowhere near as effective as israelis claim. >> martin fletcher, our man in both tel aviv and jerusalem, thanks for the wonderful weather. i know why you never want to leave here. thank you, sir. all right, mr. russert, it is back to you in the studio. i'll see you tomorrow, my friend. >> chuck, take care. we wish you had some aviators on right there. remember that nbc news and msnbc will have full coverage of the president's trip throughout the week. you don't want to miss that. our hump day gaggle will be here next. but first, the white house soup of the day, coconut shrimp. that is more summery in my opinion. don't forget to check out our website. we'll be right back. it's a brand new start. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable - secure - agile. and with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of the week.
science and technology is created to build and not destroy. they want to live in peace, free from terror and threats that are so often directed at the israeli people. that's the future that they deserve. that's the vision that is shared by both our nations. and that is shimon peres' life work. and michelle and i have such fond memories of your visit to the white house. last spring when i was honored to present you with america's highest civilian honor, our medal of freedom. and that medal was a tribute to your extraordinary life in which you held virtually every position in the israeli government. today was another opportunity -- from the historic changes taking place across the region to the perils of a nuclear armed iran, to the perils and peace between israelis and palestinians to the promise of our digital age. one of the advantages of talking to president peres is not only does he have astonishing vision, but he's also pretty practical-minded politician. and consistently has good advice in terms of how we can approach many of these problems. i reaffirmed to president peres as i will
converted our dessert into a garden. it was achieved by our people and the potential of science. what we have done, mr. president, can be done all over the middle east, as we have rightly said tonight. israel is described as a start-up nation. the middle east can become a start-up region. dear president, you noted in your address today that peace is the greatest hope. i share your vision. your call to reopen may open the way for the implementation of the two-state solution agreed by all of us. as you said, a jewish state, israel, an arab state, palestine. if i am not wrong, next to you sits our prime minister. he was reelected. he open his address in knesset by rewriting his commitment to the two-state solution. dear friends, i have sin in my life. i have the right to believe that peace is attainable. as you felt today, this is the deep conviction of our people. with our resolve and your support, dear barack obama, we shall win and it will happen. i am privileged to bestow upon you the medal of distinction. it was recommended by a committee of seven prominent israeli citizens, headed by
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, education, education, health, science, technology, improve the lives of our peoples, our close security cooperation helps keep your citizens and ours safe from terrorists. i'm especially grateful to his majesty who like his father, memorialized by the mosque i saw when i arrived, is a force for peace in word and in deed. you've invested deeply and personally in strengthening the ties between our countries, that's why you were the first arab leader i welcomed to the oval office when i became president. and i very much appreciate the work we've done together on a broad range of challenges. so i've come to jordan to build on what is already a very strong foundation and to deepen what is already extraordinary cooperation. as his majesty mentioned, tooed was a chance for me to hear from him about the necessary political reforms under way here. i want to commend the people of jordan about this year's parliamentary elections which represent a positive step toward a more transparent and credible and inclusive political process. i appreciated hearing his majesty's plans for a parliamentary gover
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to be inclusive. >> way too many people believe republicans are anti immigrant, anti woman, anti science, anti gay, anti worker and the list goes on and on and on. >> joe benenson was a poster for the obama campaign, president and founding partner of the benenson strategy group. and alex lund re is a republican polster who worked with mitt romney's campaign, vice president of target point consulting. let me first say it is a treat to have you both here for me. i'm thrilled. >> great to be here. >> it's a fascinating topic. let me start by showing some nbc wall street journal numbers to talk about the trend. so in 2004, the question was asked, do you favor or oppose same-sex marriage. 30% favor, 62% oppose. today, eight and a half years later, 51% favor, 40% oppose. let me start with you. the trend seems quite clear. am i missing something? i want to make sure we're painting the whole picture. >> no, you're not missing anything. it's a pretty spectacular time to be a student of public opinion. because we're in the midst of one of the most profound public opinion shifts in history right now. everyth
science, moral authority, et cetera, was already with them. that the country had already decided. and the polling didn't always bear that out. the voting didn't always bear that out. in 2008 when prop 8 passed, it was such a shock and a blow because for years, the gay rights community was insisting that a state has evolved in liberalist california would never allow this to happen. so it was shocking. well, now i think that narrative has caught up to the insistence, the promise of that sea change might finally be here. so to jonathan capehart's point, maybe scotus doesn't see the need for its involvement. whatever you think of the issue, i can see capehart's point that they might be reluctant given the new narrative. >> i don't know how the citizenses will rule. i don't pretend to have any particular insight into their mind sets here. but another comparison that he reference in the his piece was a new york time article over the weekend about parallels with the row v. wade decision. and the idea that the roe v. wade decision was in some ways counterproductive. created a back lash a
for children and all the social science shows that. >> so liz, you talk about the complexity but here you have a conservative bringing it down to procreation and family. you have folks saying go after divorce. and try to fight, for example, the right to have a divorce as other posed to someone who wants to be married. in many cases they have children that they've adopted. >> i think actually, there are many people who are advocates of same sex marriage and the freedom to player why who would in fact argue that by allowing same sex couples the ability to get married and to have that relationship recognized by the state, you are actually strengthening the institution of marriage. that is certainly one of the arguments i would make and i think that is something you're going to hear a lot more of. >> let me bring you, i want to reed the comments in 1996 during the house debate on doma. comments made by congressman, this is in 1996. he said we are talking about human beings, people like you. people who want to get married, buy a house and spend their lives with the one they love. they've done no wr
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who got into this a couple years ago. i didn't really understand the science behind what we call the learning connection. and i think that's, you know, it's something i learned very closely from dr. david satcher who wrote a report about the learning connection about seven, eight years ago. >> 2005. >> 2005. and what it is, there's an impact on a child's ability to learn and the number one impact is that they're nourished and they're physically a lly active. it has an impact on their performance, behavior, attendance. all these issues we hear about each day. you wonder sometimes in this country why it is that we're 25th or 15th in science or math. all of these things add up. you have to have a healthy child in order to be a good academic performer. >> we're looking at a full screen. that's very interesting. if you look at picture on the left that is what t.j.'s brain scan looks like 24 hours a day. >> it's actually a preadolescent child. same thing. good point. >> to the right, obviously, after 20 minutes of walking, you see the brain much more stimulated. again, something that t
science we have is consistently showing that children do best when raised by their biological married mother and father. and that's what every child deserves and the supreme court shouldn't shut down this conversation. the cases that are heard before the court this week should be returned to the american people and their elected representatives to make marriage policy. we don't need the court striking down marriage laws in all 50 states. >> evan -- go ahead. >> yeah, well, actually, what was just said se completely untrue. in fact, all the evidence that's been now compiled by all the leading public health authorities, the child welfare authorities, groups like the american academy of pediatrics, nation's kids doctors put out another statement in support of freedom to marry. and the experts on child raising all said ending the exclusion from families would strengthen marriage and -- >> that's not what they said. the american academy of pediatrics is a left-leaning activist group issuing statements -- balance the budget and which guns we should ban. another group of pediatrician you men
those jobs. we need the labor. we also need -- there's a lot of high, high end science technology engineering math talent in this country, students who come from overseas. we need them to stay here because they'll create jobs in the united states. right, ed? >> so, ed, what is the deal? how do we get to a comprehensive immigration reform package that both sides can agree on? >> well, you know, joe, it's very similar to the discussions we've been having about the debt. both sides are going to have to give a little. there's not going to be a bill with democrats will not vote for a bill without a real path way to citizenship. and that's to some people in the republican party that's -- they consider that amnesty. it has to be in the bill. and for our side, we have to understand that stepped up enforcement at the border, verify for businesses, that has to be part of the bill or else republicans won't vote for it. each side has to give a little. if they do. this is easier to achieve than obviously the debt is. and maybe this can be a precursor to working something out on the debt. we ne
an expansion of engineering and science education, talks about reducing the deficit by eliminate willing waste. how concerned should the gop be about mark sanford's ability to win in the palmetto state now? >> i think they should be very concerned. she is a very impressive candidate in her own right. take away who her brother might or might nop not be or is. take away the baggage that mark sanford has, she is an impressive candidate on her own. an important point to make. that being said, it is likely that sanford will have challenges with women voters in a general election. newt gingrich won the primary. >> what are you trying to imply about our state? >> any time we predict what voters can do they go and do the exact opposite. >> especially in south carolina. >> exactly. no question. my point is even with all the things we are talking about, a tough race for sanford, she is such a strong candidate answered does have real baggage to deal w >> katon, you were quoted in politico, it looks to me like governor sanford has a tough hill to climb, not getting 40% have to convince people who didn't v
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